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brune
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How big would you like your sandbox? Planet Earth size? Let's see what we can do!

http://rerollgame.com/

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"Our ultimate promise is to reproduce, accurately at scale, the whole planet," claim Pixyul - a studio created by two former Ubisoft developers. And what is their ambition in service of? An online open-world survival RPG, naturally.


http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/02/04/reroll-is-an-open-world-survival-rpg-that-wants-to-map-the-entire-world-and-also-wants-your-money/?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=emp

As a land surveyor that's one survey I'd like to quote for One thing for sure with what the Ordnance Survey charges for digital mapping here in blighty, I'm pretty certain satellite raster imagery will not come cheap!

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What if we all are already playing this game?

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Draor wrote:
What if we all are already playing this game?


mmm think I fucked up my character then!

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just imagine the sheer magnitude of the task, mapping out the planet 1km2 at a time, just imagine the data volume. whats the next few up on terabyte ?

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A lot of the data is there, availability, cost for modelling ...

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As for mapping out the planet, was there not a big documentary on this bout 5 years ago, the American military had already started and was expected to have the initial version complete by 2020 or something stupid like that. The idea was they could run there military simulations on the live terrain of the current conflict zones within minutes of them changing.
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this reminds me of a readers letter in PCG, saying that true life better than eyesight resolution will be here soon. really ? what sort of storage do you need for one persons DNA ? its massive, that's what. theyre talking mapping out particles and whatnot, so no, its decades off imo.

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Sounds like a massive ballache

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Technology has come a long way tbh. Our Faro 3D laser scanner at work surveys up to 976,000 points/second!! up to a maximum range of 200m. (this is a cheap laser scanner too, only 30k a pop!) The downside massive point cloud data files, we send out jobs on 32gb flash drives!

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Daggerfall was the size of the UK. There was fuck all in it and nothing to do outside of the towns. Who cares how big the world is if it's empty?

I smell PR bullshit

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Exactly Tenz,

Nice little sound bites that get the hype machine purring.

As for the claim to replicate at scale what the fuck does that even mean?

I will make you guys game right now that accurately models the earth on the scale of 1 lightyear = 1 pixel. (it would be a blackscreen).

Do they want to make a scale down to the cm?

I choose to use surface area to work out the number of cm^2 we need to store a given height value. 510,072,000km^2 or 5.10072 10^13 cm^2.

So how could we hold height information for each square ( the world would look like lots of little squares).

The difference between highest point (Everest) and lowest ( Marianas trench) is 1 988 301 cm, so to hold this information as an integer we need
21 bits minimum unsigned. ( this ignores 4 byte alignment and other quirks of computers that actually make it 24 or even 32)

that mean we need 21bit x 5.100072x10^13 bits or 121.76 Terabytes (2 sf) to represent the earth at this level of detail. Oh and two more 32 bits to address each square (well there about, the earths a sphere not a 2D plane )

That would literally be like mine craft at the cm level. no angles blocks just
little cm cubes.

This totally ignores, wanting floating points, having numerical rounding errors etc.

Of course this can effect the scales in your physic simulations etc and the reality nobody would do it this naively, they break it down into 100km2 and then split each into further chunks till you reached your desired simulation level. But fact remains the actual amount of data, though not in any sense astronomical is still fucking large.
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Yeah, what Ford just said!

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Website up

http://rerollgame.com/

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Don't see the point in mapping the whole world. I probably wont even leave bradford

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In reality it's going to be chunks (bricks) set in different areas/climates. The initial brick will be down town montreal.

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