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a hybrid as in magnetic storage with SSD onboard ? now that would be nice


Yes, as I understand it that's correct. Not sure what % is SSD tho, bugger all I imagine...

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a hybrid as in magnetic storage with SSD onboard ? now that would be nice


Yes, as I understand it that's correct. Not sure what % is SSD tho, bugger all I imagine...


Most of the hybrid drives I know about are liker 64GB or so worth of SSD. The controller in it sees which sectors are more frequently accessed and caches them on the SSD portion, but they're still stored on the spinning platters as well.

So, for example, a 320GB Hybrid with 32GB of SSD storage, only has an effective size of 320GB, but it'll cache 32GB of your most frequently accessed files on the SSD portion for faster access.

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now that sounds like the daddy. ive always been put off by the fucking around of SSD and the shite failure rate, plus the crap write times. something intelligent that works in the background sounds like a game changer.

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I have a budget for this now! Upgraded to 8GB memory too o_0!

So any recommendations...even if it's just branding...would be helpful plz. Is 128GB good enough for a boot partition for instance?

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When I bought my SSD I got a Samsung SSD 830 128GB drive. This wasn't too long ago, and when I got it it was the drive that had the best failure rate (meaning least failures) of all the popular SSD drives. Not sure how it is on the market now, but so far the drive has served me well. The only issue was having to get a 3.5" assembly kit to fit it to my case.

My current HD setup:

Western Digital RaptorX 150GB 10000rpm: OS and programs (old as crap but going strong)

Samsung SSD 830 128GB: Games

Seagate Barracuda 2TB: Media and random crap



No raid arrays, can't be arsed when the array fails. I can heartily recommend SSD drives though, my games load up faster than they ever have with any other setup.
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I believe it'll depend on what you can get for not too much money in your area / from your national online stores. The differences aren't that massive.

I went for an Intel 330 half a year ago. It does have a Sandforce controller that's known to cause performance problems with compressed data in SOME drives - but not, as such, in this drive. This is an Intel... I can highly recommend the 330, it's serving me very well. It's the value-tier Intel SSD, with Tomshardware wondering if these are actually "bin 2" top-end drives. There seems to be a newer model out, the 335, that's basically an upgraded version of the 330. It's not the fastest drive there is but it's plenty fast, and I liked going with Intel, its price point, and the many positive reviews I stumbled over. More than for the OCZ drives, back then.

Also, it'll depend on what size you want. Which brand is cheaper than the other will differ, even for the same types. I wanted a 180 Gb - one 50 Gb partition for C:, and the rest for programs and games. Easy for formats...

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This has probably been said before, but move your Window's page file off of the SSD to help it last longer.

Yes, performance wise, having it on there will help when your machine swaps memory out to disk, but it will wear the drive out faster. On the ohter hand, if you got a second small, cheap one.... ;-)

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Thanks chaps

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I've read "somewhere" (seemed rather reliable, wherever it was) that SSD wear is just not going to happen under normal use (=> not using it for a server with lots of I/O operations). Not before you're upgrading to a larger disk, anyway.... But a specialist, I am not.

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Intel came up with the technology to have a ssd and a magnetic work together so that things like the OS and most used programmes are moved onto the ssd whilst data like pictures and music stay on magnetic (unless you use the files a lot in which case they move to SSD)

Can not recall the exact name of the technology, Smart Response? You need a small SSD like 20GB for it to work.

Most modern Asus motherboards have this.

I never used it though, they are cheap enough now to have 128gb as c drive with a terabyte magnetic for data and programmes.

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I never used it though, they are cheap enough now to have 128gb as c drive with a terabyte magnetic for data and programmes.


Stop guessing my setup exactly!
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i have seen an article on SSDs and windows tuning (to decrease failure rate and increase performance), its a fucking shame ive forgotten where it was or what was in it, but it had stuff like what Morbeth said about the page file.
pretty useless post really, it should have read "what Morb said"

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OmegrAve wrote:
I've read "somewhere" (seemed rather reliable, wherever it was) that SSD wear is just not going to happen under normal use (=> not using it for a server with lots of I/O operations). Not before you're upgrading to a larger disk, anyway.... But a specialist, I am not.


The electron traps can wear out but you'll need to put a lot of use into it before that happens. The firmware should spread the load out quite a bit and as you said, you'll almost certainly upgrade before it happens anyway.

Most of the failures we have seen at work are to do with the firmware mapping of the drive, it just loses shit and suddenly thinks the drive is half the size it's supposed to be

SSDs are still relatively new when compared to how long conventional drives have been kicking around for. A good sized Raptor is cheaper and more reliable at the moment but it depends how much that fast boot & loading means to you. But remember, 99% of the time your expensive and small SSD will be sitting there doing bugger all, just like a larger, cheaper and more reliable Raptor

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